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		<title>By: User links about "gold" on iLinkShare</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/investing-in-gold/#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator>User links about "gold" on iLinkShare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ago6 votesFree Command &amp; Conquer: Red Alert Download&gt;&gt; saved by newmedia 32 days ago1 votesInvesting in Gold&gt;&gt; saved by tarasn 42 days ago4 votesWhy The US woman lost gold&gt;&gt; saved by HappyGrulz 45 days ago5 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/investing-in-gold/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael James - Gold has been used since before Roman times, so there is no lack of data.  My understanding is that it has essentially held its value since then, so in the long run, I think it keeps equal with inflation.  However, I&#039;ve looked around the internet and I can&#039;t find any references to back up that claim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael James &#8211; Gold has been used since before Roman times, so there is no lack of data.  My understanding is that it has essentially held its value since then, so in the long run, I think it keeps equal with inflation.  However, I&#8217;ve looked around the internet and I can&#8217;t find any references to back up that claim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Preet</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/investing-in-gold/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>Preet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael James - I agree that since gold&#039;s price has been released from fixing it has had a positive real rate of return which is why I put in the note about looking at the shorter time period, however even at 3.4% and the volatility you take with it - I&#039;m happy to wait for another few decades to see how it plays out without any skin in the game. For those who want to speculate - by all means, there is the potential to make lots of money if you make the right calls but I think we both avoid that game for the most part.

Since 1980 it&#039;s had a negative real return, so for the last 28 years it hasn&#039;t looked so rosy - but of course that&#039;s data mining in that I looked for the peak.

I think the discrepancy is that the &quot;global gold supply&quot; is different from &quot;all the gold ever mined&quot;. Wikipedia indicates that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Production&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at the end of 2006 there was 158,000 tonnes of gold ever mined&lt;/a&gt; in history (that they know of). This is confirmed by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.invest.gold.org/sites/en/why_gold/demand_and_supply/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The World Gold Council&lt;/a&gt; as well.

It is also interesting to note that the same article estimates that the gold supply will last another 45 years at current consumption rates. Perhaps with a limited supply and seemingly increasing demand there is some hope for gold as a long term investment/speculation? Again, I&#039;m happy to watch from the sidelines.

However, an additional consideration is that the transaction costs, but more importantly the storage and insurance costs, will eat into the returns as well. So if gold continues at 3.4% real gross of costs, then the real returns after costs will be less than half of that I would guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael James &#8211; I agree that since gold&#8217;s price has been released from fixing it has had a positive real rate of return which is why I put in the note about looking at the shorter time period, however even at 3.4% and the volatility you take with it &#8211; I&#8217;m happy to wait for another few decades to see how it plays out without any skin in the game. For those who want to speculate &#8211; by all means, there is the potential to make lots of money if you make the right calls but I think we both avoid that game for the most part.</p>
<p>Since 1980 it&#8217;s had a negative real return, so for the last 28 years it hasn&#8217;t looked so rosy &#8211; but of course that&#8217;s data mining in that I looked for the peak.</p>
<p>I think the discrepancy is that the &#8220;global gold supply&#8221; is different from &#8220;all the gold ever mined&#8221;. Wikipedia indicates that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Production" rel="nofollow">at the end of 2006 there was 158,000 tonnes of gold ever mined</a> in history (that they know of). This is confirmed by <a href="http://www.invest.gold.org/sites/en/why_gold/demand_and_supply/" rel="nofollow">The World Gold Council</a> as well.</p>
<p>It is also interesting to note that the same article estimates that the gold supply will last another 45 years at current consumption rates. Perhaps with a limited supply and seemingly increasing demand there is some hope for gold as a long term investment/speculation? Again, I&#8217;m happy to watch from the sidelines.</p>
<p>However, an additional consideration is that the transaction costs, but more importantly the storage and insurance costs, will eat into the returns as well. So if gold continues at 3.4% real gross of costs, then the real returns after costs will be less than half of that I would guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael James</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/investing-in-gold/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article prompted me to read Wikipedia&#039;s entry about gold.  Gold prices weren&#039;t allowed to fluctuate until 1968.  Since then gold has gone from $200 (in 2006 dollars) to about $760 today (in 2006 dollars).  This is a real compounded return of 3.4%.  I share your feeling that gold isn&#039;t likely to be a good investment in the future, but given the history of government price fixing and the fairly short history (40 years) of market-driven prices, it&#039;s hard to be sure of gold&#039;s long-term prospects.

The stat about all the gold ever mined would fit in a cube only 19 meters on a side is interesting.  According to Wikipedia, &quot;in 2005 the World Gold Council estimated total global gold supply to be 3,859 tonnes.&quot;  At 19.3 tonnes per cubic meter, this is a cube only 6 meters on a side.  This is a factor of 30 times smaller than your cube.  Perhaps the discrepancy comes from most of the gold ever mined having been used for various purposes and lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article prompted me to read Wikipedia&#8217;s entry about gold.  Gold prices weren&#8217;t allowed to fluctuate until 1968.  Since then gold has gone from $200 (in 2006 dollars) to about $760 today (in 2006 dollars).  This is a real compounded return of 3.4%.  I share your feeling that gold isn&#8217;t likely to be a good investment in the future, but given the history of government price fixing and the fairly short history (40 years) of market-driven prices, it&#8217;s hard to be sure of gold&#8217;s long-term prospects.</p>
<p>The stat about all the gold ever mined would fit in a cube only 19 meters on a side is interesting.  According to Wikipedia, &#8220;in 2005 the World Gold Council estimated total global gold supply to be 3,859 tonnes.&#8221;  At 19.3 tonnes per cubic meter, this is a cube only 6 meters on a side.  This is a factor of 30 times smaller than your cube.  Perhaps the discrepancy comes from most of the gold ever mined having been used for various purposes and lost?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Investing in Gold : thegameoflove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lowerautoinsurance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Investing in Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>lowerautoinsurance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Investing in Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I still don’t know where it’s going but as a long term investment it hasn’t done much as far as I can tell. The price of gold back in 1800 was just a tick below $20 USD per troy ounce. By the time gold reached $1000/oz about 208 years &#8230; Original Preet [...]</description>
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