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	<title>Comments on: Warren Buffett Exists Because He Has To Exist?</title>
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		<title>By: the Cynical Investor</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/warren-buffett-exists-because-he-has-to-exist/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>the Cynical Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kept reading posts/articles about the Lost Decade.
Apparently it wasn&#039;t for Warren Buffett
www.thecynicalinvestor.net/2010/01/lost-decade.html
so I bought ONE BRK-B :) last year in November</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept reading posts/articles about the Lost Decade.<br />
Apparently it wasn&#8217;t for Warren Buffett<br />
<a href="http://www.thecynicalinvestor.net/2010/01/lost-decade.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecynicalinvestor.net/2010/01/lost-decade.html</a><br />
so I bought ONE BRK-B :) last year in November</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/warren-buffett-exists-because-he-has-to-exist/#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that Warren Buffet has a partner, Charlie Munger. As vice chairman I&#039;m sure he has significant control over Berkshire, it&#039;s not all Buffet. So for this to be a random event seems even less likely that they would both be &quot;sigma 5&quot; or whatever.

I believe Buffet/Munger have skill, and I&#039;d say I think it is possible for someone to find a similar great investor. That is if they followed the same long term, slow and steady investment philosophy as Buffet/Munger which seems unlikely these days.

Just think about it, Buffet/Munger have demonstrated their skill for 40 years now! I think after the first 15-20 years of trouncing the market it was a pretty reasonable bet that they aren&#039;t an outlier or simply lucky by random.

So does anyone know of some potentially great fund managers with a good 20 year track record?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Warren Buffet has a partner, Charlie Munger. As vice chairman I&#8217;m sure he has significant control over Berkshire, it&#8217;s not all Buffet. So for this to be a random event seems even less likely that they would both be &#8220;sigma 5&#8243; or whatever.</p>
<p>I believe Buffet/Munger have skill, and I&#8217;d say I think it is possible for someone to find a similar great investor. That is if they followed the same long term, slow and steady investment philosophy as Buffet/Munger which seems unlikely these days.</p>
<p>Just think about it, Buffet/Munger have demonstrated their skill for 40 years now! I think after the first 15-20 years of trouncing the market it was a pretty reasonable bet that they aren&#8217;t an outlier or simply lucky by random.</p>
<p>So does anyone know of some potentially great fund managers with a good 20 year track record?</p>
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		<title>By: Preet</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/warren-buffett-exists-because-he-has-to-exist/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>Preet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ink - You raise a good point which Lynch wrote about in One Up on Wall Street. For every 5 copmanies he bought, three would be average, one would be a stinker and one would be a multi-bagger. It&#039;s the multi-baggers early on that can make or break a portfolio. Some of them just keep on exploding too. I think he put himself through College on one stock if I&#039;m not mistaken...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ink &#8211; You raise a good point which Lynch wrote about in One Up on Wall Street. For every 5 copmanies he bought, three would be average, one would be a stinker and one would be a multi-bagger. It&#8217;s the multi-baggers early on that can make or break a portfolio. Some of them just keep on exploding too. I think he put himself through College on one stock if I&#8217;m not mistaken&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Preet</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/warren-buffett-exists-because-he-has-to-exist/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>Preet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thick - you&#039;ll get no arguments from me on your comments! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thick &#8211; you&#8217;ll get no arguments from me on your comments! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Preet</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/warren-buffett-exists-because-he-has-to-exist/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>Preet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael James - essentially the argument of Benjamin Graham in 1976 who basically said that the advantage he had in the 30&#039;s was by then negated because there were so many more &quot;Grahams&quot; out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael James &#8211; essentially the argument of Benjamin Graham in 1976 who basically said that the advantage he had in the 30&#8242;s was by then negated because there were so many more &#8220;Grahams&#8221; out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ink-Stained Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://wheredoesallmymoneygo.com/warren-buffett-exists-because-he-has-to-exist/#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ink-Stained Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To truly duplicate Buffett&#039;s performance requires investing in great companies 30+ years ago.

I&#039;m not entirely convinced his track record over the last decade is stellar. He&#039;s a phenomenal investor - much of his wealth comes from a a core group of holdings that he has nurtured over many decades. Granted, I haven&#039;t broken down his assets to see where the majority of his wealth comes from. I&#039;m just speculating on what I understand from his investment style.

You want to talk about purely consistent active managers - I think you&#039;re talking Peter Lynch and to a lesser extent hedge fund manager John Paulson has executed some of the best trades of all time. Bill Miller at Legg Mason was an impressive anomaly who had his streak broken a couple of years ago.

Buffet&#039;s style is so hard to duplicate in this environment. Most investors look at three to five year track records, this guy is an investor/business owner who buys companies with a very long view.

Anyways, Buffett himself said that most Mom and Pop investors are better off buying an index.

I think its fair to say Buffett is good, not lucky. The more important question is whether his investment strategy would work if he was just starting out today as a stock picker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To truly duplicate Buffett&#8217;s performance requires investing in great companies 30+ years ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entirely convinced his track record over the last decade is stellar. He&#8217;s a phenomenal investor &#8211; much of his wealth comes from a a core group of holdings that he has nurtured over many decades. Granted, I haven&#8217;t broken down his assets to see where the majority of his wealth comes from. I&#8217;m just speculating on what I understand from his investment style.</p>
<p>You want to talk about purely consistent active managers &#8211; I think you&#8217;re talking Peter Lynch and to a lesser extent hedge fund manager John Paulson has executed some of the best trades of all time. Bill Miller at Legg Mason was an impressive anomaly who had his streak broken a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>Buffet&#8217;s style is so hard to duplicate in this environment. Most investors look at three to five year track records, this guy is an investor/business owner who buys companies with a very long view.</p>
<p>Anyways, Buffett himself said that most Mom and Pop investors are better off buying an index.</p>
<p>I think its fair to say Buffett is good, not lucky. The more important question is whether his investment strategy would work if he was just starting out today as a stock picker?</p>
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		<title>By: Thicken My Wallet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thicken My Wallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What everyone forgets about Buffett is that he&#039;s actually a business owner first and investor second. Berkshire Hathaway owns several insurance related businesses and he uses the float from the insurance to invest.

This is what sets him apart from fund managers. He actually understands the business underlying the stock because he runs businesses himself as opposed fund managers who rely on analysts who are well-educated but mostly have never personally experienced day to day cash flow ups and downs of a business.

This is what makes Buffett (and Prem Watsa) an outlier. How many modern day fund managers actually run businesses?

Buffett&#039;s success is skill meets an environment which rarely exists anymore. Most modern fund managers get spit out of b-school, start on a trading desk and then become fund managers. Buffett&#039;s career arch is different explaining his different results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What everyone forgets about Buffett is that he&#8217;s actually a business owner first and investor second. Berkshire Hathaway owns several insurance related businesses and he uses the float from the insurance to invest.</p>
<p>This is what sets him apart from fund managers. He actually understands the business underlying the stock because he runs businesses himself as opposed fund managers who rely on analysts who are well-educated but mostly have never personally experienced day to day cash flow ups and downs of a business.</p>
<p>This is what makes Buffett (and Prem Watsa) an outlier. How many modern day fund managers actually run businesses?</p>
<p>Buffett&#8217;s success is skill meets an environment which rarely exists anymore. Most modern fund managers get spit out of b-school, start on a trading desk and then become fund managers. Buffett&#8217;s career arch is different explaining his different results.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that Buffett&#039;s record is luck.  My own analysis of his record came up with 10-sigma, but there are so many assumptions built in that you could come up with just about any answer you want.  A more compelling argument to my mind against trying to follow Buffett&#039;s lead is Ellis&#039;s argument that the investing world has changed since Buffett started amassing his impressive record.  While the investing world is now dominated by professionals with speedy access to information, it used to be dominated by small-time investors who often got information weeks too late.  By this argument, an investor with better access to information could have outperformed by skill, but that is no longer possible to any significant degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that Buffett&#8217;s record is luck.  My own analysis of his record came up with 10-sigma, but there are so many assumptions built in that you could come up with just about any answer you want.  A more compelling argument to my mind against trying to follow Buffett&#8217;s lead is Ellis&#8217;s argument that the investing world has changed since Buffett started amassing his impressive record.  While the investing world is now dominated by professionals with speedy access to information, it used to be dominated by small-time investors who often got information weeks too late.  By this argument, an investor with better access to information could have outperformed by skill, but that is no longer possible to any significant degree.</p>
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